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Friday Nov 17, 2023
Everlasting Faint (The Greenbrier Ghost)
Friday Nov 17, 2023
Friday Nov 17, 2023
A whirlwind romance, a handsome stranger, a mysterious death, and a ghost that solves her own murder? It's no wonder the legend of the Greenbrier Ghost is one of America's most beloved ghost stories. This week we explore the many things in this time honored tale that have been lost in translation for over a century. If you think you know this story, think again. The story of Zona Heaster Shue the Greenbrier Ghost, is the most thrilling example of a woman who will stop at nothing to find justice that we've ever heard. We hope you enjoy!
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The death, resurrection and retribution of Zona Heaster Shue, The Greenbrier Ghost
Greenbrier Ghost, Zona Heaster Shue
Greenbrier Ghost (Newspaper article)
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Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
True or False Crime (Charlie McCarthy’s Ghost / Kidney Heist)
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
Leslie's Back! Just under the wire we bring you a game of true or false crime! See if you can guess if these two compelling and widely told stories are truly true crime or false felonies. Happy Halloween!
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Friday Oct 20, 2023
Grow for me (Botanical poisoners with John Rattacasa)
Friday Oct 20, 2023
Friday Oct 20, 2023
Leslie is still on Maternity Leave so this week we bring you an episode on Holly's favorite topic, poison, with one of her favorite people, frequent campfire guest and all around friend of WWBD; John Rattacasa! John has his very own poison garden with all of the rarest and deadliest plants in the world.
Holly and John talk all things botanical poison and then explore some cases where these rare and beautiful killers were actually used for sinister purposes. Holly tells the stories of Cangrande Della Scala Lord of Verona, who's mysterious death in 1329 was not untangled until scientists happened upon his perfectly preserved mummy in 2015, and David Wayne Sconce the world's most diabolical mortician. John brings us a tale of the world's deadliest and least talked about poison flower, Wolfsbane. This is a fun one fiends!
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Article on the Digitalis Mummy
casefile on David Wayne Sconce
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John's Etsy shop
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Friday Oct 13, 2023
Copycat (The Friday the 13th Killer with Jon Katity)
Friday Oct 13, 2023
Friday Oct 13, 2023
Hey there fiends, Leslie is taking a little time off to be the cutest and spookiest new mom in all the land, which means...(imagine a drum roll) guest hosts!
Happy Friday the 13th! This week in honor of this the luckiest unlucky of all days we brought our editor and composer Jon Katity on to help tell the story of the horrific murder of Sharon Gregory by a man named Mark Branch. Mark was obsessed with horror films, and aren't we all? Mark however took the concept of life imitating art to a new level when he decided to act out his own horror movie in real life. Knock on wood and cross your fingers because this is the story of the Friday the 13th killer.
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https://www.amazon.com/Crystal-Lake-Memories-Complete-History/dp/B00ETHN9L2
https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/sharon-gregory-murder/
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Thursday Oct 05, 2023
The Weirdest New Jersey (NJ Horrors and Haunts with Jesse Pollack)
Thursday Oct 05, 2023
Thursday Oct 05, 2023
Hey there fiends, Leslie is taking a little time off to be the cutest and spookiest new mom in all the land, which means...(imagine a drum roll) guest hosts!
This week we bring you several tales of homegrown horror from our friend and previous guest, author Jesse Pollack. Jesse is a contributing columnist for Weird New Jersey and co authored the definitive book and podcast on the mysterious death of Jeannette Delpalma: Death on the Devil’s Teeth. Jesse also authored the book and documentary The Acid King and is currently in production with his new found footage horror film, The Point Pleasant Tapes. Today Jesse brings us three spooky stories from the depths of his time thus far with Weird NJ, so get out your coziest blanket, light a fall candle and enjoy our first October Offering!
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A nightmare Before Christmas in Trenton (Weird NJ Article)
Trailer for The Point Pleasant Tapes
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Death on the Devil's Teeth Podcast
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Thursday Sep 21, 2023
We Would Be Deadlines (Rabbit Holes #1)
Thursday Sep 21, 2023
Thursday Sep 21, 2023
As lovers of information Holly and Leslie frequently fall down "rabbit holes" while researching cases for you. Sometimes they're newsworthy, sometimes they're silly, sometimes they're suggestions from you and sometimes they're just plain weird. No matter which rabbit hole they fall down, they all have one thing in common, they're interesting enough to pull you away from whatever you're supposed to be doing right now.
This week we'll fall down a path that leads to some current events, case updates, a list of cemeteries you have to visit this October, true crime history that occurred on this day, and the story of a positively ungovernable furry fugitive.
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Finding Alicia facebook page
Voices For Justice Podcast
Escaped Pennsylvania Killer
Ellen Greenberg (Teacher who died of over 20 mysterious stab wounds)
History.com Article: 13 Year old newspaper delivery boy found dead
New York Times, "She Steals Surfboards by the Seashore. She’s a Sea Otter."
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Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Gone to pieces (The Murder of Shad Thyrion)
Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Thursday Sep 07, 2023
In the very pre daylight hours of February 23rd 2022 Tara Pakanich heard the storm door to her basement close. Tara's 24 year old son, Shad Thyrion was staying with her at the time in that very basment, and had been entertaining an old friend, a woman named Taylor Schabusiness. Tara upon hearing the door close, wondered if they'd both left, or just her son's guest. As Tara made her way down the stairs I'm sure a lot of possible outcomes ran through her mind, but none of them included finding her son's head in a bucket at the base of the stairs, but that's exactly what happened. This case was a request fiends, and boy is it a wild one!
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Taylor's formal police report
911 call
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Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter (30 Minute Movie)
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
This week WWBD took a little break - Holly needed some much needed rest, and Leslie and Jon were moving their son into college! So the team needed a moment and we thought, why not go into the vault and pull out an originally patron only episode of 30 minute horror movies for you all to enjoy! This week we bring you, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. It's a spiritual tale filled with unnecessary montages, poorly choreographed fight scenes, lots of lesbians, and of course Vampires. Below is the link to rent it on amazon if you dare!
We will be back with an all new episode 9/6!
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Rent Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter on Amazon Prime
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Thursday Aug 10, 2023
This Barbie is Evidence (The unsolved murder of Rosie Tapia)
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
This week we are talking about a case that has been touted as Utah’s most famous unsolved murder. Trigger warning: this one is about a child and there is mention of sexual assault.
At 5 am on August 13th 1995, Lewine Tapia woke from a sound sleep with a start. The house appeared to be still and silent, her husband was peacefully sleeping next to her and yet something still felt wrong. Lewine decided to check on her sleeping children to ease her mind, but when she entered their bedroom her mind was anything but at ease. The window stood wide open, and while her 4 year old twins were still asleep in their bed, her six year old daughter, Rosie, had vanished.
This one is going to make you mad, but honestly we all SHOULD be mad, it is baffling that Rosie's case remains unsolved to this day.
Anyone with information regarding Rosie's case can leave a confidential tip at (385) 258-3313 or visit the website http://whokilledrosie.com/ to contact Rosie's family directly. A reward of $100,000 has been offered for any information that leads to solving this heinous crime.
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http://whokilledrosie.com/
https://people.com/crime/could-barbie-doll-hold-clue-to-solving-cold-case/
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/11/20/a-new-coalition-seeks-rosie-tapias-killer-after-22-years/
https://www.facebook.com/ColdCaseCoalition
https://www.ksl.com/article/46202019/group-says-it-has-new-solid-info-on-95-murder-of-6-year-old-girl
https://ksltv.com/502528/reward-raised-to-10000-for-information-in-1995-murder-of-rosie-tapia/
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Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Dirty Minded Girls (Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme Part 2)
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
You may know this case as the Heavenly Creatures murder....
The world we inhabit is an ever changing place, one lifetime can contain many lives if we’re lucky. This is the story of two women: rural riding instructor Hilary Nathan and internationally famous novelist, Anne Perry, who once lived as two completely different people. Anne grew up as a rich and fragile heiress named Juliette Hulme, and Hilary was a hard working, dark and quiet girl called Pauline Parker.
Apart these two are people you may not give a second thought about, you could pass them in a supermarket or on the train, but together they are the subject of the lurid and shocking Peter Jackson Film, Heavenly Creatures.
On the 22nd of June 1954, in the village of Christchurch New Zealand, Pauline and Juliet, as they were, did a terrible terrible thing. A thing so awful that even after their prison sentences were over, they were never allowed to see each other again.
This week we go through Pauline's diary entries to see what she had planned, and what in her mind, lead to this horrific act of violence
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This website has every single available piece of info on this case that is currently available, it is vast. This link takes you directly to the section with a detailed transcription of Pauline's diaries. This is the easiest point from which to navigate and likely what you want to see anyway.
https://www.adamabrams.com/hc/
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About Us
We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details. Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.