We Would Be Dead

Mother May I? (Love Has Won Cult)

On April 28th 2021, Miguel Lamboy walked into the Saguache county police department and told officers that he had returned from spending a night out of town to discover a dead body in his home. The body was on and bed, it appeared to have been dead for quite some time, it was wrapped in sleeping bags and Christmas lights and covered in glitter. Miguel said that he expected the body was that of a 45 year old woman named Lia Carlson, also known as Amy Carlson, but better known as Mother God, the leader of a group he belonged to known simply as "Love Has Won".
In the investigation that followed authorities uncovered a bizarre new age cult who's beliefs combined homeopathic healing, faith healing, astrology, reincarnation theories Christianity, Buddhism, new age mysticism and every conspiracy the internet has to offer. The cult, then called "Love Had Won" used dangerous tactics to keep their members loyal, and daily YouTube live streams to recruit new followers / customers. 
This week we go down the extreme internet rabbit hole that is a modern cult, and introduce you to a frightening woman many knew only as "Mother God". 
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5d Full Disclosure official website
Original Love Has Won website (archived)
5D Full Disclosure official YouTube
Love Has Won Vice Documentary
Amy Carlson and family on Dr. Phil
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I Can't Go To Sleep (The Astonishing Survival of Mary Vincent)

 
 
On September 29th, 1978, 15 year old Mary Vincent found herself hitchhiking across California. She had run away from her parents home in Las Vegas and was looking to make her way to her Grandfather's house. Mary had made it as far as Berkeley when an older man in a blue van named Lawrence Singleton picked her up in his blue van, offering to take her all the way to Los Angeles. The shocking events that played out that night would leave Mary forever altered, but through sheer will power, she survived. Prepare to be in awe of Mary's strength and determination. When faced with such an immeasurable struggle, we would be dead, but Mary Vincent would not.  
 
 
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Slenderman Stabbing update (An Interview With Andrew Jarema)

This week, we have an update, and an exciting interview for you! We brought on our friendly neighborhood mental healthcare professional, Andrew Jarema, to discuss the recent possibility of Slenderman stabbing perpetrator, Anissa Weier's parole. If you are unfamiliar with the Slenderman stabbing, please refer back to episode 4 of this podcast, we'll catch you up.
 This is a very complex topic with no concrete answers. When a child commits a crime, everybody loses, and they lose for a long time. It's easy to pass judgement on an adult attempted murderer, but when it's a child everything changes. In this interview we explore what happens after a child is convicted, where their place in the world can be, and how we continue to evaluate their evolving mind. Should a child ever be put away forever? Who has the capacity for change and how do we judge? Enter this one with an open mind and your compassion umbrella at the ready. Andrew was wonderful and really shed some light on this very murky issue for us. We hope you learn as much as we did, and enjoy!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Ride or Die (Bonnie & Clyde)

"You've read the story of Jesse JamesOf how he lived and died;If you're still in needOf something to read,Here's the story of Bonnie and Clyde.
 
Now Bonnie and Clyde are the Barrow gang,I'm sure you all have readHow they rob and stealAnd those who squealAre usually found dying or dead."
 - Bonnie Parker, 1934
Ok fiends it's time for a classic! In honor of Leslie's wedding this week we will be telling the ultimate story of true love and true crime. This is the story of Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow, who robbed and murdered their way through their early twenties before dying in a haze of bullets. Bonnie and Clyde were young, gorgeous, and deadly. We hope you enjoy this thorough exploration into true crime's most infamous couple!
 
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I'll call you on Sunday (Kristin Smart)

On Friday May 24th 1996, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University just wanted to find a party. She went out for the night, just like so many other students had done before, and still do today, but Kristin never came back. 4 days later a missing persons report would be filed, but it would take 24 years, 3 county sheriffs, a relentlessly dedicated family, and ultimately, a clever and tenacious podcaster to uncover just what happened to Kristin that night. This is a frustrating one fiends, but hopefully Kristin and her family are finally seeing a glimmer of justice. 
 
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Halfoween 2 (Asylums and Aliens)

It's that time of year again fiends! Dust off your seasonal allergies and get ready to be truly terrified because it's Halfoween! If you're new to WWBD allow us to explain: we celebrate the halfway point to the undisputed best holiday ever by having the girls try to terrify one another with stories that lean into their worst fears. This year Holly will make Leslie shrink into a little horrified ball with stories of the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum, one of the most haunted locations in America. Then, Leslie will make Holly wish she was dead by telling her about the alien abduction of Betty and Barney Hill. Happy Halfoween fiends! 
 
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Today's The Day (The Delphi Murders)

Monday February 13th, 2017 was an unseasonably beautiful day in Delphi Indiana. Best friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams had a rare day off of school and wanted to enjoy the weather, so they decided to take a walk on Monon High Bridge trail, a prime location for the kind of artful, moody social media photos that the youths are so fond of. At approximately 2 pm Liberty would post a snapchat of Abby, alone on the bridge, and that would be the last time anyone saw or heard from the girls alive. Less than 24 hours later their bodies would be discovered in the underbrush near the trail, just 50 feet shy of the embankment to Deer Creek on private property. Their killer is still at large. Video recovered from Liberty's cell phone shows the grainy image of a man following them on the solitary railway trestle bridge, this, accompanied by a tiny snippet of eerie audio the Indiana State police have released, which is a man's voice instructing "Guys...Down the hill." has captured the interest of every true crime follower the world over.  Police believe this man is responsible for the murder of both girls.
 
This is a sad one fiends, they're all sad but there's something about this one that really gets to a lot of us. We have uncovered every possible rock for you guys, and we hope there will be developments for us to report in the future. If you gave any information regarding this case please contact the Indiana State Police. All tips can be given anonymously.
e-Mail: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comTip Line: (844) 459-5786Indiana State Police: (800) 382-7537Carroll County Sheriff: (765) 564-2413
 
 
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The Watcher House & New Orleans Trunk Murders (Best of Campfires #1)

Greetings Fiends! Last year we all entered into a strange and dark time. WWBD wanted to find a way to bring our community together and provide a lantern's worth of spooky light into your week, and so we began having Facebook live weekly campfire stories events. The plan was to do them as long as quarantine lasted, how long could it be a month? Well as we all know it just never really ended, and our campfires became a beloved institution. They are a moment for all of us to check in with one another and share our reactions to a few good scares.  Over the past year we have told quite a few awesome stories on campfire nights that we realized deserve the full podcast treatment, so we decided to do just that. In this first edition, Leslie tells us about the New Orleans Trunk Murders and Holly covers the Westfield Watcher house. We hope you enjoy the first installment in out "Best of Campfire" series, and don't worry if you heard us cover these stories live, they have been expanded for the full podcast format and we put a little extra treat in the middle. 
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Fin. (Jack The Ripper, Part 3 with special guest The Corpse Review)

In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful series of events occurred. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short.
This is it fiends, the finale of our Ripper coverage! This week we examine the police investigation, evidence and suspects to try and figure out just who Jack the Ripper was, and then we take all of this information to an expert. Our special guest, forensic scientist The Corpse Reviewer, breaks down the science of death for us, and helps shed some light on what exactly the ripper crime scenes do and don't reveal. Links to the Instagram accounts at which our guest is an active contributor, "The Corpse Review" and "Bride of the Corpse Review" are below! We hope you enjoyed this intense deep dive into the most famous serial killer of all time. 
 
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Five Plus Six (Jack The Ripper, Part 2)

In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful series of events occurred. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short.
This week, in our second Ripper episode we will cover the remainder of the ripper's victims, beginning with the final three of the canonical 5: Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly, and finishing with debatable ripper victims: Rose Mylett, Alice McKenzie, "The Pinchin Street Torso", and Frances Coles.
 In week three we will be covering evidence, investigations and suspects, AND we will have a special guest to break down all the science for us. A real live forensic scientist will be joining us to help sort through which theories have weight and which we can discount, and give us his expert opinion on who exactly "Jack the Ripper" was. Links Instagram accounts at which he is active contributor, "The Corpse Review" and "Bride of the Corpse Review" below!
 
https://www.instagram.com/thecorpsereview/
 
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