We Would Be Dead
A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
Episodes

Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
The Monster in the Man (Jeffery Dahmer Part 2)
Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
Welcome back for part 2 of Jeffrey Dahmer, WWBD's examination of one of the world's most notorious serial killers ! This week we dive into Jeff's crimes and confessions, it's the all murder and courtroom edition. Hang on to your hats fiends because this is a graphic one. Last week we brought you the man inside the monster, and this week we truly see the monster in the man. *All sound clips are taken from Stone Phillips' 1994 interview with Jeffrey Dahmer, which originally aired on NBC, and can be found in full in the link below.
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Dahmer Interview with Stone Phillips (YouTube)
Lionel and Shari Dahmer Interview with Larry King (YouTube)
Joyce Flint (Dahmer) Interview in Hard Copy (YouTube)
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Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
The Man in the Monster - (Jeffrey Dahmer, part 1)
Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
On July 22, 1991, two Milwaukee police officers entered the apartment of a tall blond man they thought had gotten a little overzealous with a lover. The house of horrors they would go on to discover would forever change the landscape of crime in American, and ensure that the name Jeffrey Dahmer would live forever in infamy the world over.
In this the first of two episodes covering the infamous Milwaukee cannibal, we take a deep diver into Jeffrey Dahmer's childhood and adolescence. We here at WWBD are always trying to figure out where the man ends and the monster begins. Where do criminals this heinous come from, and are there red flags we can look for on the way? Let's find out!
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Dahmer Interview with Stone Phillips (YouTube)
Lionel and Shari Dahmer Interview with Larry King (YouTube)
Joyce Flint (Dahmer) Interview in Hard Copy (YouTube)
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Tuesday Aug 04, 2020
She Wasn't Like That - (Morgan Ingram)
Tuesday Aug 04, 2020
Tuesday Aug 04, 2020
When it comes to the people we love, we truly see what we want to see. After all, it's hard to accept that we may love someone and not truly know them. The human brain is designed to fill in the blanks in the most efficient way, so we assume that if a person seems happy, well, then, they are. Sooner or later however, if there are cracks in the connections we have made, they begin to show, and then we have to make a choice: do we want to see the truth, or not?
On the morning of December 2nd, 2011, Toni Ingram walked into her daughter Morgan's room to let out her puppy, but she never could have imagined what was waiting for her on the other side of that door. What follows is a tale of weighing what we know, what we believe, and what the evidence tells us is true. Was Morgan murdered? We may never truly know.
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Police Records, Lab Report and Autopsy
Stalking Reports
Stalker Video
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Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
Betrayed by the Familiar - (The Cheshire Murders)
Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
It's hard to wrap our head around a complete stranger wanting to invade our safe space and do us bodily harm for no reason. Violent home invasions that occur completely at random are among everyone's worst fear. They seem terrifyingly possible, and yet impossible at the same time.
This week, WWBD takes a look into one of the most horrific home invasions the United States has ever seen. On July 23, 2007, Joshua Komisarjevsky and Steven Hayes invaded the home of the Petit family in idyllic Cheshire, Connecticut. The events that followed are so terrifying that it leaves us to wonder if and when we are ever really safe. Linked below is the full poem used in this week's opening, all the charges against Joshua Komisarjevsky and Stephen Hayes, and a YouTube link to the documentary mentioned for those of us who do not have HBO... and it does, in fact, start with trees.
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Joshua Komisarjevsky journal (Humanity's Social Hypocrisy)
Court Documents (Scribd)
The Cheshire Murders (YouTube)
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Tuesday Jul 21, 2020
Nightmare Fuel - (Cursed Objects)
Tuesday Jul 21, 2020
Tuesday Jul 21, 2020
This week the girls dig into the chilling world of cursed objects. Holly exploits everyone's inexplainable (well kind of explainable) fear of creepy dolls with the tales of Annabelle, the doll that launched a thousand nightmares with her series of films, and Robert the Doll. Leslie dips into the weirder side of cursed object with the Dibbuk Box and the painting that haunted Ebay "The hands Resist Him". This is a fun one, fiends; we hope you enjoy! Special guest appearance by Post Malone! (Well, he's mentioned; the girls don't actually speak to him.)
* WWBD regrets to inform you that Warren's Occult Museum is currently closed due to structural issues with the building, which would seem to be the price of doing business with roughly 200 demons. Owners of the estate are looking for a new building to house all of their cursed objects. We hope none of them escape in the intrim. Sleep tight fiends.
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Post Malone Cursed!
Dibbuk Box by Jason-Haxton on Amazon
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Tuesday Jul 14, 2020
I am, You are, we are- (Vanessa Guillen)
Tuesday Jul 14, 2020
Tuesday Jul 14, 2020
On April 22 2020, PFC Vanessa Guillen disappeared. She was last seen in the parking lot of her unit, The Regimental Engineer Squadron headquarters of the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, Fort Hood, Killeen Texas. The investigation, or lack there of, that followed would expose the seedy underbelly of military sexual harassment, sexual abuse, rape and murder. Vanessa Guillen's disappearance and ultimately, her murder, raise the questions "How much do we really know?" and "who can we trust".
In the wake of Vanessa's Murder many military women have come forward with their own stories of sexual harassment, sharing them with the world under the twitter hashtag #IAmVanessaGuillen. We encourage you to bear witness to these women, their bravery and all that they have been through in an effort to serve their country. We also encourage you to click the link below to hear Vanessa's sister speak.
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2019 Military Service Gender Relations Focus Groups: Active Duty

Tuesday Jul 07, 2020
Stay out of the woods- (Cropsey and The Melon heads)
Tuesday Jul 07, 2020
Tuesday Jul 07, 2020
This week WWBD revisits Urban Legends with a full length deep dive into two bizarre legendary stories that hve surprising roots in true events. Holly tells us about "Cropsey" the child snatching asylum escapee who snatches children in the Staten Island woods. Leslie ventures a little farther out into the woods with the story of the Melon Heads, large headed, diminutive, clan of people, who dwell deeply off the grid and are known to terrorize anyone they encounter.
*We have included a link to Geraldo Rivera's piece on the Willowbrook State School, it is extremely hard to watch and includes nudity. Viewer Discretion is more than advised.
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Cropsey Documentary
Willowbrook State School documentary
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Tuesday Jun 30, 2020
Fatal Flaw - (Luka Magnotta)
Tuesday Jun 30, 2020
Tuesday Jun 30, 2020
Society spends a lot of time talking about the mind of a killer, about the ways their brains are different, about the mental illness that can manifest in a violent explosion if left unchecked, but that's not the only factor driving people to kill. Sometimes the killing is just a means to a different end. This week WWBD examines internet killer Luka Magnotta and how an obsession with fame can evolve into desperation more quickly than any of us would like to admit. If you haven't seen the groundbreaking Netflix Documentary "Don't F*ck with Cats", it is very highly recommended viewing in concert with this week's podcast; we can't add a link in the show notes, but we're going to go ahead and assume that most of you have Netflix at this point.
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Tuesday Jun 23, 2020
House Mummy - (Dorian Corey and Venus Xtravaganza)
Tuesday Jun 23, 2020
Tuesday Jun 23, 2020
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Tuesday Jun 16, 2020
Episode 19: Someone's at the Door - (Kanika Powell)
Tuesday Jun 16, 2020
Tuesday Jun 16, 2020
On August 28th, 2008, at 11:50 am, Kanika Powell was shot to death in a hail of bullets, right outside her own front door. Kanika's killer remains at large to this day. This episodes explores the bizarre events that lead up to this completely senseless tragedy, and how it is that a person can do everything right, and still end up dead. Are we ever truly safe? It's hard to say.
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Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory - for those who would like to further explore.
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About Us
We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details. Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.




