We Would Be Dead
A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
Episodes

Thursday Sep 26, 2024
Dragonflies (The Murder of Laci and Connor Peterson, Part 2)
Thursday Sep 26, 2024
Thursday Sep 26, 2024
Sorry for leaving you all with a crazy cliff hanger last week but it had to be done! When we left off Laci Peterson had gone missing from her Modesto CA home on Christmas Eve day 2002. After a cursory investigation authorities had their eyes on her husband scott. This week we'll see how a pair of burglars with the worst luck in the world threw this case for a loop, a loop that could only be closed by a starting confession from Scott's unaware lover Amber Frey. We'll reveal what became of Laci and Conner and examine how one woman's bravery allowed justice to be served.
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Susan Medina's testimony
Watch American Murder: Laci Peterson
click here to learn what happened to the dog
local article on the burglary
additional burglary information
The People Versus Peterson transcript (this is everything)
Excerpts from "For Laci" by Sharon Rocha
Witness by Amber Frey
Comprehensive Rolling Stone Article
CNN's Coverage of Karen's Testimony
Autopsy details, TW we do not go into this in either episode. It is very disturbing.
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Thursday Sep 19, 2024
Dragonflies (The Disappearance of Laci and Connor Peterson, Part 1)
Thursday Sep 19, 2024
Thursday Sep 19, 2024
On Christmas Eve morning 2002 Scott Peterson said goodbye to his pregnant wife Laci, got in his car and left to go golfing. When he returned home late that afternoon Laci was gone. Friends and family members leapt into action furiously trying to find Laci. Little did they know that they would find themselves launched into a horrifying media circus. Soon after, Laci's loved ones began to realize that maybe they devil they knew was far more terrifying than the devil they didn't.
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References will be listed in part 2. No spoilers!
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Thursday Aug 22, 2024
True Crime TLDR: The Career Girls Murder
Thursday Aug 22, 2024
Thursday Aug 22, 2024
It's a Lesliesode!!! This week's double sized TLDR takes you through the murders of Emily Hoffert & Janice Wylie, deemed the Career Girls Murder. It's a windy, twisty road that finally leads us to justice - but not without really f-ing up first.
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https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1963/08/29/89957611.pdf?pdf_redirect=true&ip=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Whitmore_Jr.#:~:text=(May%2026%2C%201944%20%E2%80%93%20October,1966%20ruling%20in%20Miranda%20v.
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,898388,00.html
https://ifearbrooklyn.com/2014/07/06/moving-on-a-tale-of-being-young-dumb-black-in-america/
https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/not_guilty/career_girls/5.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/04/26/archives/youth-is-accused-in-wylie-slaying-theft-suspect-charged-with.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/04/29/archives/brooklyn-indicts-3slaying-suspect-accuses-youth-in-stabbing-of.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150210060034/http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/not_guilty/career_girls/3.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1975/09/23/archives/in-shadow-of-brother.html
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Thursday Aug 08, 2024
Road To Nowhere (The Disappearance of Brandon Swanson)
Thursday Aug 08, 2024
Thursday Aug 08, 2024
Shortly after midnight on May 14, 2008, 19 year old Brandon Swanson left a going away party for a friend. He started off on the half hour drive home to his parents house in Marshall Minnesota, taking back roads through dark cornfields when he found himself in unfamiliar territory.
Brandon tried to turn his car around but ended up stuck off the road in a ditch. He called his parents to come and get him, being sure to give them what he suspected to be his rather remote location. Over the next three hours they would try desperately to find each other. During this search Brandon and his father stayed on the phone until Brandon suddenly uttered "Oh shit" and was never seen again.
Anyone with Information regarding Brandon Swanson or his disappearance should contact Agent Derek Woolford at the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (651) 793-7000 or the FBI VICAP at 1-800-634-4097. click the missing poster below for case numbers and more information.
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Missing Poster
Case Report
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Friday Aug 02, 2024
Folie à Deux Minus One ( TLDR Anna Stubblefield and Derrick Johnson)
Friday Aug 02, 2024
Friday Aug 02, 2024
This week's super sized TLDR takes you through the complicated, one sided love story of Anna Stubblefield and Derrick Johnson. It's the story that inspired the much talked about Netflix Documentary: Tell Them You Love Me.
Click To Learn MoreClick here to watch "Tell Them You Love Me" on Netflix
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Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
The Trail's Gone Cold (The Disappearance and Murder of Angela Nicole Bradbury)
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Mitchell County Iowa, July 12th 2021, 5:27 PM. A local girl was taking a walk down the Greenbelt River Trail when something strange and terrifying caught her attention. She looked once, rubbed her eyes thinking she must be seeing things, and then looked again. Upon further inspection it was clear that no she wasn't seeing things, there among the lush grass and stately trees was a human skull dangling off a wooden spike.
Police rushed to the scene immediately and interviewed everyone who had been along the trail that evening. Among the briefly interviewed was Nathan Gilmore, a man who authorities would eventually find out followed his satanic delusions down a murky rabbit hole to murder and dismemberment.
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Church of Satan
Sigil of Baphomet
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/nathan-gilmore-sentenced-to-decades-in-prison-for-angela-bradbury-murder/
https://www.radioiowa.com/2023/10/16/father-of-mason-city-woman-speaks-out-as-osage-man-sentenced-for-her-death/
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Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
True Crime TLDR: Gay Nazis (Ernst Röhm and the Eldorado Cabaret)
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Happy Pride Fiends! Alright we know it's July, but we had one more pride episode on the books so we're giving it to you anyway. This one is for the musical theater fans! Before The stonewall there was the Edorado Cabaret, a german, multi locational, enlightened, anything goes wonderland where liberation was was abundant. We have learned that you cannot talk about LGBTQ+ history without mentioning Weimar Republic era Berlin. There, for a time, life really was beautiful. This is the story of the real Kit Kat Club and the glittery, tragic history that inspired the musical Cabaret. This episode had us riveted, and if you like it as much as we did, be sure to watch the Netflix documentary Eldorado: Everything the Nazi's Hate, link below.
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https://about.netflix.com/en/news/eldorado-everything-the-nazis-hate
https://www.ilholocaustmuseum.org/celebrating-queer-joy-in-1920s-berlin/
https://adventuresintimeandgender.org/stories/the-club-history/
https://perspectives.ushmm.org/item/photo-of-the-eldorado-club
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Tuesday Jun 25, 2024
Be Gay Do Crime (The Stonewall Uprising)
Tuesday Jun 25, 2024
Tuesday Jun 25, 2024
Happy Pride Fiends! WWBD whole heartedly supports the LGBTQ+ community and so, we decided that it was time we covered the event that launched what we know today as Pride, The Stonewall Uprising. As we all know, Pride was first and foremost a protest, but the events that lead up to that protest might just surprise you.
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https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps
https://blog.smu.edu/ot8317/2016/05/11/leviticus-1822/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/lgbt-activists-remember-stonewall-riots-50-years-fighting/story?id=63083481
https://www.history.com/news/stonewall-riots-timeline
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Sunday Jun 02, 2024
Halfoween 4! (An Attack on Leslie)
Sunday Jun 02, 2024
Sunday Jun 02, 2024
Happy Halfoween fiends! It's time once again to brin you stories that explore our deepest, darkest, squirmiest fears! Join Holly, Leslie and fiend favorite John Rattacasa as they bring you a smorgasbord of scary stories.
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Wednesday May 22, 2024
Case File TLDR (Amber Hagerman, AMBER alert)
Wednesday May 22, 2024
Wednesday May 22, 2024
WEEKLY CONTENT IS BACK!
Ever wish you knew more about the cases the rest of the world has analyzed without you? Often, when cases are fully developed and researched, there's just too much information to take in at once. It can be overwhelming! Don't worry, you've come to the right place.
Welcome to Case File TLDR! Every other week we'll provide and quick and comprehensive catch up on cases that should be in your mental library but aren't, strange stories that made a huge but quick impact, or frequently used true crime terms and tropes you meant to look up but never got around to. You'll never have to nod along again.
Have you ever wondered why it's called an AMBER alert? Have you just been pretending to know because it seems like everyone else already does? We got you. This is everything you need to know about the tragic disappearance turned unsolved murder of 9 year old Amber Hagerman, the little girl who inspired a huge change.
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https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2021/still-searching-for-ambers-killer
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/remembering-amber-hagerman-27-years-later/
https://allthatsinteresting.com/amber-hagerman
https://amberalert.ojp.gov/
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About Us
We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details. Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.




