We Would Be Dead
A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
Episodes

Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Today's The Day (The Delphi Murders)
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Monday February 13th, 2017 was an unseasonably beautiful day in Delphi Indiana. Best friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams had a rare day off of school and wanted to enjoy the weather, so they decided to take a walk on Monon High Bridge trail, a prime location for the kind of artful, moody social media photos that the youths are so fond of. At approximately 2 pm Liberty would post a snapchat of Abby, alone on the bridge, and that would be the last time anyone saw or heard from the girls alive. Less than 24 hours later their bodies would be discovered in the underbrush near the trail, just 50 feet shy of the embankment to Deer Creek on private property. Their killer is still at large. Video recovered from Liberty's cell phone shows the grainy image of a man following them on the solitary railway trestle bridge, this, accompanied by a tiny snippet of eerie audio the Indiana State police have released, which is a man's voice instructing "Guys...Down the hill." has captured the interest of every true crime follower the world over. Police believe this man is responsible for the murder of both girls.
This is a sad one fiends, they're all sad but there's something about this one that really gets to a lot of us. We have uncovered every possible rock for you guys, and we hope there will be developments for us to report in the future. If you gave any information regarding this case please contact the Indiana State Police. All tips can be given anonymously.
e-Mail: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comTip Line: (844) 459-5786Indiana State Police: (800) 382-7537Carroll County Sheriff: (765) 564-2413
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Link to audio and video from the Indiana State Police
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Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
The Watcher House & New Orleans Trunk Murders (Best of Campfires #1)
Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
Greetings Fiends! Last year we all entered into a strange and dark time. WWBD wanted to find a way to bring our community together and provide a lantern's worth of spooky light into your week, and so we began having Facebook live weekly campfire stories events. The plan was to do them as long as quarantine lasted, how long could it be a month? Well as we all know it just never really ended, and our campfires became a beloved institution. They are a moment for all of us to check in with one another and share our reactions to a few good scares. Over the past year we have told quite a few awesome stories on campfire nights that we realized deserve the full podcast treatment, so we decided to do just that. In this first edition, Leslie tells us about the New Orleans Trunk Murders and Holly covers the Westfield Watcher house. We hope you enjoy the first installment in out "Best of Campfire" series, and don't worry if you heard us cover these stories live, they have been expanded for the full podcast format and we put a little extra treat in the middle.
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Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
Fin. (Jack The Ripper, Part 3 with special guest The Corpse Review)
Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful series of events occurred. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short.
This is it fiends, the finale of our Ripper coverage! This week we examine the police investigation, evidence and suspects to try and figure out just who Jack the Ripper was, and then we take all of this information to an expert. Our special guest, forensic scientist The Corpse Reviewer, breaks down the science of death for us, and helps shed some light on what exactly the ripper crime scenes do and don't reveal. Links to the Instagram accounts at which our guest is an active contributor, "The Corpse Review" and "Bride of the Corpse Review" are below! We hope you enjoyed this intense deep dive into the most famous serial killer of all time.
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Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Five Plus Six (Jack The Ripper, Part 2)
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful series of events occurred. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short.
This week, in our second Ripper episode we will cover the remainder of the ripper's victims, beginning with the final three of the canonical 5: Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly, and finishing with debatable ripper victims: Rose Mylett, Alice McKenzie, "The Pinchin Street Torso", and Frances Coles.
In week three we will be covering evidence, investigations and suspects, AND we will have a special guest to break down all the science for us. A real live forensic scientist will be joining us to help sort through which theories have weight and which we can discount, and give us his expert opinion on who exactly "Jack the Ripper" was. Links Instagram accounts at which he is active contributor, "The Corpse Review" and "Bride of the Corpse Review" below!
https://www.instagram.com/thecorpsereview/
https://www.instagram.com/bride.of.thecorpsereview/
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Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
Left To Right (Jack The Ripper, Part 1)
Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful thing began to happen. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short. This week, in our first installment, we'll talk about what it was like to live in Whitechapel in 1888, how the killings began and the lives and terrible deaths of Emma Elizabeth Smith, Martha Tabram, Mary Ann Nichols and Annie Chapman. Next week we'll cover the remaining victims, evidence and the investigations, and in week three we have a special guest to break down suspects and theories. A real live forensic scientist will be joining us to help sort through which theories have weight and which we can discount, and give us his expert opinion on who exactly "Jack the Ripper" was. Link to an Instagram account at which he is active contributor, "The Corpse Review" below!
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Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
Boys' Club (The Jameson Cannibal Incident)
Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
I'm sure we're all familiar with Jameson's Irish whiskey, especially at this time of year, but how much do we really know about John Jameson and his extremely large family? This week we'll dive into the story James Sligo Jameson, the member of the family that the Jameson's would rather we didn't talk about. James Sligo Jameson had a fortune at his disposal, a penchant for stomping around jungles with other rich white boys, and a dangerous obsession with cannibals. This sinister cocktail of attributes would eventually cost an innocent young girl her life. Join us on an expedition into one of the darkest corners of whiskey history. Sláinte fiends!
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Tuesday Mar 09, 2021
Dressed for Dinner (Katherine Knight)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2021
Tuesday Mar 09, 2021
On the morning of March 1, 2000 Aberdeen, New South Wales police arrived at the home of Johnathon Price. They had gotten reports that Mr. Price hadn't shown up at work that morning, and coworkers expected foul play. Foul couldn't begin to describe the bloodbath police found when the broke down that door. One might expect, that at the center of this unholy nightmare, one would find the darkest, most depraved man imaginable, but that is where one would be wrong. At the center of the chaos, there was no man, but a woman named Katherine Knight, snoring in her bed.
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Tuesday Mar 02, 2021
The Dollfather (Anatoly Moskvin)
Tuesday Mar 02, 2021
Tuesday Mar 02, 2021
The human race has a strange relationship with death, but some of us just take it to the next level.
On November 2, 2011 in the town of Nizhny Novgorod Russia, police raided the home of local linguist, historian, and cemetery enthusiast, Anatoly Moskvin. For two long years Russian authorities had been searching for the person responsible for disturbing the graves of a great many local children, and they suspected they had finally found their culprit, but what they found in his apartment exceeded even the strangest of expectations.
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Pre-arrest interview with Anatoly
Daily Mail article about Olga's murder
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Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
We Would Still Be Dead (Ted Bundy, Part 2)
Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
Well fiends, we've made it to one whole year and you know what that means, it's time to cover Ted Bundy. This podcast came from a conversation Holly and Leslie had where they put themselves in the place of the victims of infamous crimes, namely those who died at the hands of Ted Bundy. It's so easy to say that when faced with a killer you would know better and get away, but the simple fact of the matter is that most of us wouldn't, and we would be dead.
In part two we dive into the costly phenomenon of identifying with a killer. A great many officers and investigators refused to believe Ted could possible be the man they were looking for simply because he reminded them of themselves, and if he could do those horrible things, did that mean that deep down inside, they were capable of them too? We want our monsters to be scary, to wear their murderous nature on their filthy, blood soaked sleeves, but what happens when they don't?
During his time Ted Bundy violently murdered 28 women, we have all read his story and watched the documentaries, but we're going to try remove the sensationalism and expose the unfiltered picture of who Ted was, who he killed, and what happens when a predator knows exactly how to attract and exploit his prey. Strap in fiends, because we're navigating some perilous waters.
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Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
We Would Be Dead (Ted Bundy, Part 1)
Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
Well fiends, we've made it to one whole year and you know what that means, it's time to cover Ted Bundy. This podcast came from a conversation Holly and Leslie had where they put themselves in the place of the victims of infamous crimes, namely those who died at the hands of Ted Bundy. It's so easy to say that when faced with a killer you would know better and get away, but the simple fact of the matter is that most of us wouldn't, and we would be dead.
Ted Bundy was a real man, not a mythical monster and he killed real women not beautiful illustrations. This week we focus hard on that fact, and explore the danger in what we perceive to be "safe".
During his time Ted is said to have violently murdered over 28 women, we have all read his story and watched the documentaries, but we're going to try remove the sensationalism and expose the unfiltered picture of who Ted was, who he killed, and what happens when a predator knows exactly how to attract and exploit his prey. Strap in fiends, because we're navigating some perilous waters.
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About Us
We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details. Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.