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Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Gone to pieces (The Murder of Shad Thyrion)
Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Thursday Sep 07, 2023
In the very pre daylight hours of February 23rd 2022 Tara Pakanich heard the storm door to her basement close. Tara's 24 year old son, Shad Thyrion was staying with her at the time in that very basment, and had been entertaining an old friend, a woman named Taylor Schabusiness. Tara upon hearing the door close, wondered if they'd both left, or just her son's guest. As Tara made her way down the stairs I'm sure a lot of possible outcomes ran through her mind, but none of them included finding her son's head in a bucket at the base of the stairs, but that's exactly what happened. This case was a request fiends, and boy is it a wild one!
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Taylor's formal police report
911 call
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Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter (30 Minute Movie)
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
This week WWBD took a little break - Holly needed some much needed rest, and Leslie and Jon were moving their son into college! So the team needed a moment and we thought, why not go into the vault and pull out an originally patron only episode of 30 minute horror movies for you all to enjoy! This week we bring you, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. It's a spiritual tale filled with unnecessary montages, poorly choreographed fight scenes, lots of lesbians, and of course Vampires. Below is the link to rent it on amazon if you dare!
We will be back with an all new episode 9/6!
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Thursday Aug 10, 2023
This Barbie is Evidence (The unsolved murder of Rosie Tapia)
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
This week we are talking about a case that has been touted as Utah’s most famous unsolved murder. Trigger warning: this one is about a child and there is mention of sexual assault.
At 5 am on August 13th 1995, Lewine Tapia woke from a sound sleep with a start. The house appeared to be still and silent, her husband was peacefully sleeping next to her and yet something still felt wrong. Lewine decided to check on her sleeping children to ease her mind, but when she entered their bedroom her mind was anything but at ease. The window stood wide open, and while her 4 year old twins were still asleep in their bed, her six year old daughter, Rosie, had vanished.
This one is going to make you mad, but honestly we all SHOULD be mad, it is baffling that Rosie's case remains unsolved to this day.
Anyone with information regarding Rosie's case can leave a confidential tip at (385) 258-3313 or visit the website http://whokilledrosie.com/ to contact Rosie's family directly. A reward of $100,000 has been offered for any information that leads to solving this heinous crime.
Learn More:
http://whokilledrosie.com/
https://people.com/crime/could-barbie-doll-hold-clue-to-solving-cold-case/
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/11/20/a-new-coalition-seeks-rosie-tapias-killer-after-22-years/
https://www.facebook.com/ColdCaseCoalition
https://www.ksl.com/article/46202019/group-says-it-has-new-solid-info-on-95-murder-of-6-year-old-girl
https://ksltv.com/502528/reward-raised-to-10000-for-information-in-1995-murder-of-rosie-tapia/
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Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Dirty Minded Girls (Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme Part 2)
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
You may know this case as the Heavenly Creatures murder....
The world we inhabit is an ever changing place, one lifetime can contain many lives if we’re lucky. This is the story of two women: rural riding instructor Hilary Nathan and internationally famous novelist, Anne Perry, who once lived as two completely different people. Anne grew up as a rich and fragile heiress named Juliette Hulme, and Hilary was a hard working, dark and quiet girl called Pauline Parker.
Apart these two are people you may not give a second thought about, you could pass them in a supermarket or on the train, but together they are the subject of the lurid and shocking Peter Jackson Film, Heavenly Creatures.
On the 22nd of June 1954, in the village of Christchurch New Zealand, Pauline and Juliet, as they were, did a terrible terrible thing. A thing so awful that even after their prison sentences were over, they were never allowed to see each other again.
This week we go through Pauline's diary entries to see what she had planned, and what in her mind, lead to this horrific act of violence
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This website has every single available piece of info on this case that is currently available, it is vast. This link takes you directly to the section with a detailed transcription of Pauline's diaries. This is the easiest point from which to navigate and likely what you want to see anyway.
https://www.adamabrams.com/hc/
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Friday Jul 14, 2023
Dirty Minded Girls (Pauline Parker & Juliette Hulme part 1)
Friday Jul 14, 2023
Friday Jul 14, 2023
You may know this case as the Heavenly Creatures murder....
The world we inhabit is an ever changing place, one lifetime can contain many lives if we’re lucky. This is the story of two women: rural riding instructor Hilary Nathan and internationally famous novelist, Anne Perry, who once lived as two completely different people. Anne grew up as a rich and fragile heiress named Juliette Hulme, and Hilary was a hard working, dark and quiet girl called Pauline Parker.
Apart these two are people you may not give a second thought about, you could pass them in a supermarket or on the train, but together they are the subject of the lurid and shocking Peter Jackson Film, Heavenly Creatures.
On the 22nd of June 1954, in the village of Christchurch New Zealand, Pauline and Juliet, as they were, did a terrible terrible thing. A thing so awful that even after their prison sentences were over, they were never allowed to see each other again.
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....Next week. No spoilers!
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Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Money. Fame. Sex. Glamour. (Andrew Cunanan)
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Many of you will know this case will be simply known as the murder of ultra famous, incredibly rich, Italian Fashion designer and icon Gianni Versace, but there is ever so much more to it than that. For a case that is so widely covered we were stunned to learn that we barely knew it at all. Spree killer Andrew Cunanan killed 4 men in the two months before he made it to the lavish home of Gianni Versace that balmy July morning. He also spent an inordinate amount of time hiding from the police in plain sight. But how, you must be asking yourself? Well, Andrew Cunanan is a fascinating portrait of what happens when the wrong person is raised to think they're always right, so he simply didn't think he'd get caught.
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Andrew Cunanan FBI full case files
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Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
Lost in Brick City (Sakia Gunn)
Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
Newark NJ can be a difficult place to grow up in. The crime rate is high, the income rate is low and gun violence is not an uncommon sight. Fortunately Newark has seen improvements in the last 20 years but in in 2003, when Sakia Gunn and her friends walked the litter lined streets, Newark was one of the scariest places on the east coast. A young black lesbian like Sakia would need support in Brick city if they wanted to survive, and luckily she found it in friends, family and basketball. Sadly, all that didn't matter on May 11th 2003 when a stranger got out of his car and stabbed her as she waited for a bus at 3 am with her friends. This story may seem simple, but it is far from it. Sakia's story is considered a landmark case in the LGBTQ+ community which may leave you wondering, why is this the first time you're hearing of it?
*Sakia's story is the first case in our pride month series. This episode does include a brief synopsis of the history of pride and the Stonewall Riots, if you're unfamiliar with these events this is a good place to begin. #wewouldbeproud
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Sakia Gunn Remembered by Keith Boykin
Braving the Streets Her Way by Anne Hull (part one of The Washington Post coverage)
Using Her Voice to Rise Above by Anne Hull (part 2)
Dreams Deferred: The Sakia Gunn Film Project on Vimeo
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Thursday Jun 08, 2023
All Is Not Well! (The Ratcliff Highway Murders)
Thursday Jun 08, 2023
Thursday Jun 08, 2023
In this campfire re-do Holly takes us back to the Regency Era and tells the very bloody story of The Ratcliff Highway Murders. It was too good not to do on a main episode!
You can hear the original campfire stories over on our Patreon if you are a subscriber - if you are not a subscriber, head on over to our Patreon and become one! The date was February 7, 2021 - it was a marvelous time!
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Wednesday May 31, 2023
The Ranch (Spring Break Series Part 2: Mark Kilroy)
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Nowhere will you find more opportunities for disaster, than on spring break. A place with beautiful warm weather, water, and copious amounts of alcohol that attracts thousands of young adults every year. Spring break destinations have disproportionately high rates of human trafficking , DUI deaths, and incidents of alcohol poisoning, rape and illicit drug use. They can be very dangerous especially if your guard is always down. In the United States, these trips are projected as a right of passage when your passage is not yet complete.
Holly and Leslie both have stories to offer on this topic, so we thought a story swap would be the best way to approach it. This week Leslie tells us about the disappearance and tragic murder of 21 year old Mark Kilroy. In March of 1989 University of Texas at Austin student Mark Kilroy disappeared in Matamoros, Mexico while on Spring Break in South Padre Island with 3 of his childhood friends. On April 11, his body was discovered along with 14 other victims on a ranch in Santa Elena, Mexico. Investigators discovered that he was the victim of a drug cult that practiced human sacrifice. WHAT?!
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New York Times article
Washington Post article
Rolling Stones article: The Believers: Cult Murders in Mexico by Guy Garcia
Woman called priestess of satanic cult says she's changed / Inmate has served 15 years in prison in Mexico for ritual sacrifices of 13 people
Wikipedia - Mark Kilroy
All That Interesting - Adolfo Constanzo
Sacrifice: The Tragic Cult Murder of Mark Kilroy in Matamoros : A Fathers Determination to Turn Evil into Good
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Thursday May 18, 2023
The Beach (Spring Break Stories Part 1: Brittanee Drexel)
Thursday May 18, 2023
Thursday May 18, 2023
Nowhere will you find more opportunities for disaster, than on spring break. A place with beautiful warm weather, water, and copious amounts of alcohol that attracts thousands of young adults every year. Spring break destinations have disproportionately high rates of human trafficking , DUI deaths, and incidents of alcohol poisoning, rape and illicit drug use. They can be very dangerous especially if your guard is always down. In the United States, these trips are projected as a right of passage when your passage is not yet complete.
Holly and Leslie both have stories to offer on this topic, so we thought a story swap would be the best way to approach it. This week Holly tells us about the disappearance and tragic murder of 17 year old Brittanee Drexel. In April of 2009 Brittanee snuck off with some acquaintances to Myrtle Beach SC for spring Break . Her parents had forbidden her from going on this unchaperoned trip, but just like many teens in her situation do, Brittanee found a way to get there in secret. Sadly she wouldn't make it home alive. Brittanee's disappearance baffled law enforcement for over 13 years before her case was solved, and in the process it and launched a protracted witch hunt for one innocent man
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We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details. Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.